‘Carlos & Shawn’: Too early to have THAT conversation about Detroit Lions’ Dan Campbell?

• Hosts: Shawn Windsor (@shawnwindsor) and Carlos Monarrez (@cmonarrez)

• Producer: Andrew Hammond

• Editor: Cary Junior

• Executive producers: Anjanette Delgado, Kirkland Crawford

On this episode: This week, Carlos and Shawn sift through what we think about the current status of Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell, and whether the losses outweigh the perceived progress. Then, the guys break down the Draymond Green-Jordan Poole punch, and what it says about sports and society at large. Finally, the guys look ahead to the big Michigan-Penn State game and the not-quite-as-big Michigan State-Wisconsin contest.

Catch “Carlos and Shawn” every Thursday morning at 5 and on demand on freep.com or wherever you listen to podcasts.

SHAWN WINDSOR:Dan Campbell was supposed to break the cycle. Now he’s in trouble

CARLOS MONARREZ:Lions fans should be careful about calling for Dan Campbell’s firing